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  • Henry Yang
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    • Prop 209 was passed in 1996
  • 兰彤
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    • @Henry Yang 你们加州人are weird
  • Henry Yang
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    • So we are a state free of institutional racial discrimination
  • Henry Yang
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    • And seven other states followed
  • 社会主义好?
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    • @Lantong 您应该感谢我们做了这一步。义工贡献了很多啊。
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  • Henry Yang
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    • Hopefully the Supreme Court can deal racial discrimination a final blow soon
  • 国栋
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    • @Henry Yang 东岸的朋友表示没有战战兢兢
  • 赵宇空
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    • Why Asian American is politically so weak? Because Asian Americans historically are willing to bed with AA supporting party and are willing to sacrifice our children's interests in expect for some gains. The reality is they prolong the poverty in disadvantaged communities, we ended up with higher taxes and a cap on out children's future. Economist reporter asked me: why did not Asian American elected leaders fight for Ivy leagues' discriminations against your community? The above is the reason
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  • Henry Yang
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    • @国栋 东岸的某些朋友表示战战兢兢
  • Zhang Jian
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    • @赵宇空 
  • 兰彤
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    • @赵宇空 那么赵先生,我们算下账吧,哈佛每年收2000学生,asian 20%,黑墨20%,其他60%,假设quota限制on asian 存在,放开会增加到30%,就是说没有限制能多收20个asian,这20个按比例分的话,take黑墨5个名额,white/jews 15个名额,so basically our disagreement 就在这5个黑墨名额?放弃这五个名额,形象加分很多,你们可不可以只fight equal chance with white/jews,leave 黑墨alone?
  • 社会主义好?
  • Jenssen
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    • @Lantong 再算算。
  • 兰彤
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    • If you can't,then I support and respect your right to fight what you think is not right,but I don't want to be any part of it
  • Henry Yang
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    • @Lantong 哈佛不会给你这个机会的。只要race AA允许,亚裔肯定受歧视
  • Jenssen
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    • @Lantong 2000的10%是多少?
  • 社会主义好?
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    • @Lantong 您大学录取,还是要看肤色?
  • 赵宇空
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    • @Lantong I do not see significant risk here because we support economic based AA. We have no other alternatives. Though Supreme Court has been gradually reducing racial consideration in college admissions, Asian Americans suffer from worsening discrimination. The California experience proves, a total ban of racial considerations the right solution.
  • Wen Raiti
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    • It is not about the number. It is about our dignity and pride. Why is our children's hard work penalized? It is not about AA, but about our equal rights in education.
  • Jenssen
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    • @Wen Raiti 
  • Henry Yang
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    • @Lantong  "Given what is occurring at Harvard and at other schools, the proper response is the outright prohibition of racial preferences in university admissions—period." SFFA的起诉书掷地有声。"Allowing this issue to be litigated in case after case will only “perpetuate the hostilities that proper consideration of race is designed to avoid.” ... Harvard and other academic institutions cannot and should not be trusted with the awesome and historically dangerous tool of racial classification. As in the past, they will use any leeway the Supreme Court grants them to use racial preferences in college admissions...to engage in racial stereotyping, discrimination against disfavored minorities, and quotasetting to advance their social-engineering agenda."
  • Henry Yang
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    • From our experience in California, I fully agree with SFFA
  • Jenssen
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    • 这是为美国未来战斗。
  • Jenssen
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    • 总不能让美国成为衰败的欧洲吧!
  • 兰彤
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    • I've expressed my honest opinion. I am done. Again,thank you for all your effort and action. You've taken a huge responsibility,please live up to it and don't lose your sight and make this an ego contest.
  • 兰彤
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    • Good night
  • 赵宇空
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    • @Lantong you have misunderstanding in your math. This is not a zero sum game with black and Hispanic. Because racial factor is in college admission, Asian Americans suffer more discrimination than white, who are not favored by AA either. The girl in New England who filed complaint against nine top universities is a good example. More than 10 white students ranked lower than her got admitted by Ivy leagues.
  • 国栋
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    • @Henry Yang 东岸的还有某些朋友表示为美国的未来和亚裔的未来而奋勇拼搏,绝不战战兢兢
  • Henry Yang
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    • @国栋 
  • 赵宇空
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    • @Lantong good night.
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  • Jenssen
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    • @国栋 两军相争, 勇者胜。更何况是正义之师。
  • 江声依旧
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    • "SFFA的起诉书:Harvard and other academic institutions cannot and should not be trusted with the awesome and historically dangerous tool of racial classification. As in the past, they will use any leeway the Supreme Court grants them to use racial preferences in college admissions...to engage in racial stereotyping, discrimination against disfavored minorities, and quotasetting to advance their social-engineering agenda." Interesting. Assuming this is true, what I don't understand is why Harvard and other elite schools spare no efforts to selectively and systematically discriminate against Asians, not against other group? Anybody here care to shed some light?@Henry Yang 
  • 国栋
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    • 逾百亚裔团体促最高法院禁种族歧视录取 - 世界新闻网
      http://www.worldjournal.com/3426225/article-%E9%80%BE%E7%99%BE%E4%BA%9E%E8%A3%94%E5%9C%98%E9%AB%94%E4%BF%83%E6%9C%80%E9%AB%98%E6%B3%95%E9%99%A2%E7%A6%81%E7%A8%AE%E6%97%8F%E6%AD%A7%E8%A6%96%E9%8C%84%E5%8F%96/?ref=%E5%8D%B3%E6%99%82&npg=2&variant=zh-cn
  • Jenssen
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    • 在对高科技移民问题上, Trump 敢于突破政治正确禁区, 可圈可点, 比那些华裔民主党人强多了。
  • Henry Yang
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    • @江声依旧 because of quota in their minds
  • Zhang Jian
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    • @Jenssen I cannot imagine Trump becomes the next president.
  • Jenssen
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    • @Zhang Jian 
  • Zhang Jian
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    • 虽然在这个问题上他可能是对的
  • 社会主义好?
  • 社会主义好?
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    • 加州参议员赫尔南德斯也没说SCA5要歧视亚裔
  • 赵宇空
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    • @国栋 
  • 江声依旧
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    • Quota applied only to Asians? That doesn't make sense. "they will use any leeway the Supreme Court grants them to..."sounds like Asians are their sworn enemy.
  • 社会主义好?
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    • 不是enemy, 比赛时叫rivalry 或是competition的结果,based 在 merits
  • 江声依旧
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    • 谁跟谁比赛?哈佛跟亚裔?
  • 社会主义好?
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    • 入学按着个人的qualification哈,不是enemy。
  • Zhang Jian
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    • 除了fight 现在的AA,华裔有必要建一所一流的大学
  • Henry Yang
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    • @江声依旧 because Asian are the only ones over the quota
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