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  • Henry Yang
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    • 发现瑞克居士走后就你最娱乐了
  • 解滨
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    • 娱乐成分太多,没法严肃起来了。
  • 解滨
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    • 搞清楚到底在谈什么, 再谈也不迟,拜托了
  • 赵宇空
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    • @谈云识天气 you had a totally wrong understanding of our position. From the start, we spoke of Asian American interests, never a supporter of anybody else. We supported Blum in Harvard case because it aligned with Asian American interest. We will support a racially blind solution for Fisher case, not top10%, regardless who proposed it!
  • Henry Yang
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    • 还top 0.5%呢,民主党再搞笑也不致于让哈佛自杀
  • 谈云识天气
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    • @赵宇空 top x percent that may not be your intention, but that may well be the outcome of Blum wins his Fisher case. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
  • 谈云识天气
  • 赵宇空
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    • @谈云识天气 sorry. We have enough wisdoms in our organizing committee, will not listen to non-constructive suggestions.
  • 解滨
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    • Well said!
  • 谈云识天气
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    • @赵宇空 yeah, you go with your committee. My audience is the silence majority who think and have actual kids on the line.
  • 邁阿密關姐地產 Jeanie
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    • 李登輝投書日媒「日曾是祖國」 馬批賣台 | 李登輝投書日媒 | 要聞 | 聯合新聞網
      http://udn.com/news/story/8508/1135394-%E6%9D%8E%E7%99%BB%E8%BC%9D%E6%8A%95%E6%9B%B8%E6%97%A5%E5%AA%92%E3%80%8C%E6%97%A5%E6%9B%BE%E6%98%AF%E7%A5%96%E5%9C%8B%E3%80%8D-%E9%A6%AC%E6%89%B9%E8%B3%A3%E5%8F%B0?from=groupmessage&isappinstalled=0
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • 就平常Ivy录取情况, 东部,中西部, 加州华人上腾校的机会可能是很不一样的,如果Ivy 录取政策有任何改变, 各地区华人上腾的差别也很可能也会改变。
  • 嘶嘶马啸
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    • @谈云识天气 你反对race-based admission policy 吗? 尽管我知道你对top10%有不同看法。
  • 谈云识天气
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    • Of course I'm against race BASED admission. Top x percent will effectively become a race BASED policy simply because the way how minority populations actually spread.
  • 赵宇空
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    • @谈云识天气 regardless your intention, please do not scare off parents who are willing to stand up to protect their civil rights. I view a top percentage program as a liberal's scheme to disguise their racial consideration intention, just like what Professor Sander found with University of California system. Nevertheless, though we do not support it, it is actually less evil than the current practice of racially based admissions in Ivy Leagues because UC systems take top10% and remaining based on merit. The reality is: top Asian American kids go to top UC schools. Those who are not 10% still can be admitted using merit based approaches. The fact that Asian Americans have higher admission rate in UC's top universities than Ivy Leagues is a strong proof. Let's focus on eliminating racial consideration in college admissions. That's our goal!
  • 谈云识天气
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    • @赵宇空 Great! You're against top x percent plan!! We are making progress here.Can you stop your ally Edward Blum from proposing it? You know, make an actual difference here? Come up with a plan that will actually works, then I'm with you.
  • 嘶嘶马啸
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    • 80-20 和AACE都没说支持top10%. 我们是反对the overall race-based admission policy. 你怎么莫名其妙地反对我们呢?
  • 谈云识天气
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    • @T Dai it's not about what you want, it's about what you actually will get. I have real kids here.
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • For the record, UC take 4 percent, and only to one of the 10 UC campus, UC, no necessary UCB or UCLA
  • 谈云识天气
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    • Politics is like 太极拳。Nothing is as straight forward. You need to think about end game and pick of the lesser of two evils.
  • 嘶嘶马啸
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    • @谈云识天气 all you need to say: please check Blum's proposed solution and make sure it does not hurt our kids, then you give a link to Blum's original document.
  • Henry Yang
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    • @谈云识天气 这就象废奴,结果又搞出了Jim Crow. 都象你这个心态,黑人恐怕现在还是奴隶
  • Henry Yang
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    • @T Dai I'll bet this guy does not read the original document
  • 谈云识天气
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    • @圭 Top x percent plan is reasonable for state schools given their mission. But it's not suitable for elite schools, not even elite state schools.
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  • 谈云识天气
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    • I've read all the court filings I can find. I've found out Blum is pushing for the top x percent during the court hearing of the Fisher case by doing research. As supporters, why didn't you find it before me? Where are you due diligence research?!
  • 社会主义好?
  • 谈云识天气
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    • I've followed the conservative attacks on school admission since 1990s. They were long at it. I'm all for as many allies as you can find. But aren't you supposed to check where the bus is going before you get on the bus?!
  • 社会主义好?
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    • @谈云识天气 能把你的逻辑说清楚?逛下结论没用的
  • 嘶嘶马啸
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    • @谈云识天气 tell us the current lawsuit against Harvard and UNC? Is there a top x% plan or something else?
  • 谈云识天气
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    • @T Dai the lawsuit has gone that far yet. You do understand how lawsuit work, right? Given Edward Blum is the driving force behind the Harvard case, I did more research on him, and on his Fisher case.
  • 谈云识天气
  • 黄奕
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    • @谈云识天气 @赵宇空 你们能不能分别把各自看到的文章发上来。大家一起对比着看。现在你们吵的那么厉害。我们看不到full context,连帮忙都不知道要怎么上手。
  • Henry Yang
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    • @谈云识天气 Blum isn't pushing top 10% plan in Fisher case, because it has already been implemented for nearly 20 years in Texas, period
  • 谈云识天气
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    • I would actually prefer @赵宇空 's case go first on its own because it mostly want more information from Harvard, has no chance of overturn it. The Chinese community does have lots of questions, and Harvard needs to answer them. But because of Blum's Harvard case, 赵''s case bounced right back. Blum is out to change Harvard for his own purpose. I want to protect my 20% with the hope to increase it. But I'm not willing risk my 20% on some top x percent plan.
  • Henry Yang
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    • @谈云识天气 even the Supreme Court has no authority to ask Harvard to implement top x plan, let alone Harvard
  • Henry Yang
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    • And Harvard won't be so stupid to implement a 0.5% plan, which would make it a third tier school instantaneously
  • 谈云识天气
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    • @Henry Yang you keep laughing, but go to the side.
  • Henry Yang
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    • @谈云识天气 you don't even know who proposed the top 10% plan
  • Henry Yang
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    • If you have any doubt and worry, please just take a look at Berkeley and UCLA
  • 【纽约代伟】
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    • (观看)美国中文电视:李林笛纽约筹款晚会 - 纽约代伟的博文 - 美国中文网
      http://blog.sinovision.net/home/space/do/blog/uid/323080/id/263935.html
  • 青青子衿
  • 青青子衿
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    • 还转不了,在飞机上
  • 【纽约代伟】
  • Tony Xu
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    • Jerry Brown: Hillary Clinton's Email Scandal 'Like a Vampire'
      http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/21/jerry-brown-hillary-clintons-email-scandal-like-a-vampire/
  • Tony Xu
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    • 拉里姐有大麻烦了,不知道布朗叔会不会出头选
  • 【纽约代伟】
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    • @Tony Xu Email的事儿又搬出来了 意料之中啊
  • 【纽约代伟】
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    • 相信希姐已经准备好了至少20种反击答案
  • Tony Xu
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    • 这件事看上去,不是小事能轻易摆平了
  • Tony Xu
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    • 她反击没有用,关键是民众怎么看
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