@菁菁 wrote "@Henry Yang 你真的没在中国生活过还是装糊涂,中国人政治言论之多样性,包括您上面一句,你在美国见过么?" 菁菁,you are wrong, not only wrong, but self evidently wrong for many of us. Precisely because we lived both in China and America for long time, we know the differences all too well. That's why your comment managed to scramble the deep division among us and achieved the impossible: unite both liberals and conservatives in opposition to one statement, your statement.
To give you some perspective, I would just point out some simple facts. The one thing this group of 500 never had disagreement was the press conference for Prof Xi and Ms. Chen. Two of the leaders that organized the event were @薛海培(Haipei Shue) 和此群主@老客Cliff李忠刚 . Do you know how they get to know each other and first cut their teeth in political organization? One word: 学自联. Do you know what it means? If not, google it. Then try to 百度 it inside China. Compare the results, if there are any results from 百度 at all.
When that terrible June night happened, you were either a baby or not born yet. The Chinese government successfully suppressed it from your education. To us, that was not just history in a book. We were eye witness to history, either inside or outside China. Don't tell us it's American propaganda either. When you had to duck because real bullets were flying over your head at 木樨地, when you had to retreat because a line of AK47 were aiming at you and ready to fire, when real blood spilled on the street of Motherland, it's no longer academic, it's all too real. What did we do to deserve all this?! Well, we made political points, like we do here every single day. Making political points without the threat of violence, that's freedom for you.
You may feel that you never had personal experience of having your opinion suppressed inside China. Well, you haven't crossed an invisible line yet, particularly you haven't done any political organization. If you did anything like what @薛海培(Haipei Shue) 和@老客Cliff李忠刚 did, you'd sit inside a Chinese jail, just like those Chinese feminist activists.
You can easily Google "Kent state" to get all the glory details in America. Can you get anything inside China by 百度 June IV 学运。I had to use Roman numeral because WeChat servers are inside China.