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  • 谈云识天气
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    • @Henry Yang are you against the top 10 percent style plan for for it?
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  • Henry Yang
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    • 说加州和德州,是反驳你所说的最高法院会要求其他州会同样执行的理论
  • Charles
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    • @Henry Yang you said so but I don't think so. Harvard
      HaS nothing to do with Michigan State for example
  • 社会主义好?
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    • @Charles what is your point?
  • 谈云识天气
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    • @Henry Yang once Supreme Court bought the rationale of the Fisher/Blum side, its decision will apply crossed the states. You know this much, right?
  • Henry Yang
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    • @谈云识天气 of course I don't support top 10%, but it is still much better than racial discrimination
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • @赵宇空 the reason I asked, is that i don't see the passion and quick reaction across the board in this one verse the sca5. ScA5 reaction were swift, spontaneous across the entires Asian community, you guy knows better, but I don't see it in this case even within the Chinese community ourselves
  • Henry Yang
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    • @谈云识天气 you are Wong
  • Henry Yang
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    • @陳年酒 these are the same thing
  • Henry Yang
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    • 反SCA5和反哈佛are essentially the same thing
  • 谈云识天气
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    • @Henry Yang good we're making progress! I have both you and @赵宇空 on the record saying you are against the top x percent. Then why can't you formula a legal brief reflect that?!
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • @Henry Yang that is what you thought
  • Henry Yang
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    • @谈云识天气 we already mentioned that
  • Henry Yang
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    • 我们的重点是反种族歧视
  • 社会主义好?
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    • @陳年酒 lots of people think so too
  • Henry Yang
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    • 废除种族歧视的州,没有哪个是实行德州那样的top 10%方案
  • 谈云识天气
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    • @Henry Yang In Supreme Court, you have to get your details right. Otherwise you may win the case, but lose war. We may end up with less students in Harvard based on top x percent plan.
  • Charles
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    • @社会主义好? whatever school.your kid ends up with,God has a plan for him or her. No need to complicate issue
  • Tony Xu
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    • @谈云识天气 supreme court无权要求各州采用德州方案,period
  • Henry Yang
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    • @谈云识天气 you even don't know who proposed top 10%, now you are talking about the "details"?
  • 兰彤
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    • @Henry Yang 你们能不能别把AA叫种族歧视,实在是misleading,我就不用造谣这种词了,你在accuse美国四十plus州在实行种族歧视吗?
  • Tony Xu
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    • 这次我老来重复一边
  • Henry Yang
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    • @Lantong 你说justice Scalia , Thomas 和Roberts 造谣?
  • 社会主义好?
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    • @谈云识天气 反种族歧视是point,对Harvard当然采取更merits based的办法
  • Tony Xu
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    • @Lantong 大法官就这么说的。henry把大法官的话给她再quote一边
  • Henry Yang
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    • 2003年Grutter v. Bollinger, Justice Scalia: "The educational benefit. that the
      University of Michigan seeks to achieve by racial discrimination..."
  • Henry Yang
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    • 2013 Fisher v. University of Texas, JUSTICE THOMAS: "I join the Court’s opinion because I agree that the Court of Appeals did not apply strict scrutiny to the Universityof Texas at Austin’s (University) use of racial discrimination in admissions decisions."
  • Henry Yang
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    • John Roberts :“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race." ...”
  • 谈云识天气
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    • @Tony Xu wrote "supreme court无权要求各州采用德州方案,period" Then we why even care to file a lawsuit with federal court?!
  • 谈云识天气
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    • @Tony Xu you really don't understand how American politics work.
  • Tony Xu
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    • 啧啧啧,又使出人身攻击大招了
  • Henry Yang
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    • @谈云识天气 最高法院可以判德州的种族歧视非法,但是不能够要求其他州采用他们指定的方案。明白了?
  • 兰彤
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    • @Henry Yang 我看了n遍了,你不用重复了,可是这是说AA went overboard ,不legal的AA,不是AA本身啊
  • Tony Xu
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    • racial based AA其实就是种族歧视
  • Tony Xu
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    • @Lantong 我们又不反对socialeconomics based AA
  • 社会主义好?
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    • racial based AA其实就是种族歧视 +1
  • Tony Xu
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    • 假定一种种族superior or inferior to另一个种族。
  • 兰彤
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    • @社会主义好? AA本意是强制公平,又不是偏向照顾,这还你们说的
  • Tony Xu
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    • 这个不是种族歧视又是啥
  • Henry Yang
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    • @Lantong 我哪里说所有AA了?
  • 社会主义好?
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    • @谈云识天气 @Tony Xu you really don't understand how American politics work. 你会正常交流?
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • @Henry Yang John Robert 的writing 不是majority 吧? 如果是,那就成law 了
  • Henry Yang
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    • @Lantong 我们在讨论race based AA
  • Henry Yang
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    • @陳年酒 不是majority, 但是不能说他是造谣吧?
  • 兰彤
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    • @Henry Yang race based 强制公平,没意见吧?
  • 谈云识天气
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    • @Henry Yang you don't really care about solution, do you? Supreme Court's decision set the standard on what is legal for admission policy. Top 10 percent is on the table. If the Supreme Court says this is legal way to achieve diversity, many schools will model its policy based on it. This is how America works. It doesn't always require direct order from the government.
  • Tony Xu
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    • 他老使出人身攻击这招,就已经输了。俺可不会咬flamebait。
  • Henry Yang
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    • @Lantong 有意见,没有强制公平,是强制不公平
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • @Henry Yang so his view was rejected by the court, agree?
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