今天,兰彤和Yan Y都退了群,我觉得很遗憾。 相信很多人和我一样都从她们的论点里学到了很多东西,就像从加州的朋友们那里学到了很多东西一样。我觉得在辩论中,对自己最好的结果就是能够以理说服别人并得到别人的认可和尊重。当然道不同,一时或永远说服不了对方很正常,那么其次就是求同存异互相认可,为以后可能的合作创造条件。但如果策略不够,再糟糕一点的是理上赢了,但让人接受的很难受,所谓的win the battle, but lost the war. 最糟糕的就是make an enemy, or drive the person away. 是没什么实际关系,反正群上的人可能永远都不见面,but you really lost, because you did not make yourself kind of person in such a level who can break that glass ceiling. This LEVEL does exist. First you should know what this is, then try to lift yourself up being in that level. 我在努力,希望咱们一起努力,you will love it going this path ...
来这里辨论如果只是为了一种自我表达的快感,那么谁来谁去只不过是少了一个辨论的对手,但如果来这里辩论是为了去争取那些中间摇摆者的话,原本是中立立场的兰彤的离开不仅仅代表挤走了一种理性建设性的的讨论,从某种意义上很可能意味着你失去了一批本来是可以爭取到的中间派,"快感" is expensive in politics
This group is becoming a completely closed system for the purpose of recycling of the same old stuff over and over again. Some people, apparently suffering from victim complex, came here to relay misinformation to one another, and after further intramural discussion, reinvented the same "truth" and comforted each other with the new "information" they "discovered", then the whole process started over again. Quite a spectacle to behold.