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  • 阿布
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    • @兰彤 我的逻辑有什么问题?给华人设quota,必然有人会失去本应有的机会,不要跟我说不会失去,真不会失去,就不要设置quota了。那我就问Charles是希望自己的孩子失去这个机会还是别人的孩子?这个逻辑有问题吗?在号召利他时,难道不需要想清楚是希望他人利你,还是你利他人吗?
  • 兰彤
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    • @阿布 他自己的孩子跟你的同一个pool竞争呗,may the best kid win,又不是lottery
  • 阿布
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    • 如果他并不希望自己的孩子被淘汰掉,为什么就该是别人的孩子被淘汰呢?而不设置quota,这个孩子是可以得到这个机会的啊!@兰彤
  • i司机
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    • @Alan Guo 是不同的教育理念。天天推孩子上补习班的,我早就领教过了。
  • 兰彤
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    • @阿布 因为完全也有可能是他的孩子被淘汰啊,说到这里你还觉得这样argue没有逻辑问题的话,我已经不认为我有说清楚的本领了
  • 社会主义好?
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    • @Yan Y 不光是不同的教育理念啊。 我也是不建议推上补习班的。但反SCA5和AA是另外回事。
  • i司机
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    • @Alan Guo 我这里基本可以用这个划线。我有切肤之痛
  • 阿布
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    • @兰彤 如果设置quota正好会导致只有Charles的孩子被淘汰,那么正好请他让孩子直接让出位子给其他族裔;如果结果不是只有他的孩子被淘汰,为了实现他这一高尚的利他理想,也请他的孩子让出位置给同胞。他都不忍心看其他族裔孩子上不了大学,肯定更不忍心看华人孩子上不了大学对吧?所以结论就是为了实现他的理想,他得先让自己的孩子把位置让出来。推导完毕
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • 我不认为共和党支持战争的人要把先把自己孩子送前线才能参加战争的讨论
  • 兰彤
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    • @阿布 呵呵
  • 阿布
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    • @圭 所以你支持共和党总统打仗?
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • 不是哪个总统的问题而是具体哪个战争的问题
  • 阿布
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    • 那你想说什么?军人是自愿参军的。孩子是被迫被淘汰的,两个是一回事?
  • Henry Yang
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    • @圭 民主党总统也打仗,而且打了美国历史上最大的败仗。不管是民主党还是共和党要打仗的人,都没有强迫你的孩子去牺牲对不对?
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • @Henry Yang 对啊!我特同意你,所以我也认为不能强迫那些支持㓕少社会富利的人一定要首先自己先去当穷人体验体验才能投票,
  • Henry Yang
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    • @圭 不谈战争了?
  • Richard Lee 佛州地产与投资移民
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    • 【迈阿密地产快讯】华媒:5000万移民未来35年进驻美国 将带火房市
      7月28日电 据美国侨报网报道,据美国联邦人口普查局的最新报告显示,在未来35年内,进入美国
  • 阿布
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    • @圭 你太贴心了。不过就算体验体验也没问题啊,真要是没有过度福利,我绝对支持不削减
  • 兰彤
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    • 你们父母移民没有?领福利没?
  • Henry Yang
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    • @圭 福利是白送的,纳税人要求削减过度福利不是什么问题吧?
  • Henry Yang
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    • @兰彤 你想说什么?我们要求削减合法移民的适当福利了吗?
  • 兰彤
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    • @Henry Yang 被你们说的加州跟地狱似的,本来我还打算搬家
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • @Henry Yang 与战争无关,与辩论手段方式有关?
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • 加州本来是应该天堂的,现在变成了华人政治家的战场
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • @Henry Yang 为什么不行?我个人还真认为穷人(包括合法移民)有好多福利比我还好!
  • Henry Yang
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    • @圭 @兰彤 你俩在福利问题上好像观点不一样,你俩打吧我去吃饭了
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • 当然他们是被迫成为穷人,所以是被迫拿社会福利的
  • 晨星
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    • 難道有了福利就有了一切?喪失福利就喪失一切?
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • 福利不是主要问题,是福利被abused 才是问题
  • 晨星
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    • 亦是被政客利用的工具
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • 同意!
  • i司机
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    • (转发自李林笛微信)
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    • While U.S. immigration tide has flipped, Chinese Americans better contain their joy
      July 28, 2015 Editorial, Sing Tao Daily



      Fifty years after the implementation of the Immigration and Naturalization Act, the U.S. Census Bureau confirmed that China has replaced Mexico as the top country of origin for immigrants to the United States beginning in 2013. Recalling that the Chinese was the most discriminated immigrant group for over a hundred years, the contrast is sharp like day and night. As we review the past and assess the present, Chinese Americans should perhaps not place too much self-comfort on the increase of numbers on the surface, but be careful in facing the backlash brought on by the immigration changes.



      In the early days when the Chinese came to the U.S. to help build the railroads, the conservatives already accused the Chinese of "taking away American jobs, tarnishing white American women, and threatening the American civilization." After the enactment of the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882, Chinese became the first group of illegal aliens “officially designated by law,” suffering from numerous barriers and human tragedies continuously in the nation of new immigrants and their nation of origin.



      It was not until 1965, when the U.S. passed the immigration law and terminated quotas favoring European nations, that Chinese from “two shores, three regions” (meaning the mainland, Taiwan, and Hong Kong) were able to rush in to pursue the American dream. By the 2010 U.S. Census, the number of Chinese in the U.S. reached 3.3 million.

      The increase in the Chinese American population and the reunion of their families are of course good developments, but their situation also becomes the focus of attention. Chinese immigration history expert Li Yi Lin points out that when their country of origin, China, becomes increasingly stronger and American xenophobia resurfaces, Chinese Americans will also be more vulnerable to political and economic attacks.



      For example, in terms of security issues, U.S. federal investigators continuously accuse nationals from the Chinese mainland in recent years to be involved in military and economic espionage, and are intensifying the crackdown, with the result that the two sides talk past each other. However, Chinese Americans working in the sensitive sectors in the U.S. are serially accused of leaking secrets to mainland China. Surprisingly, some cases cannot be prosecuted afterwards because of insufficient evidence. As their many years of hard work, income, and reputation of the accused individuals vanish overnight, many of these individuals feel that they are innocent victims of these "unjust, false, and wrong” cases, serving only the purpose as warnings to others.



      Although the federal law enforcement agencies declare that they would not cook up charges, Chinese Americans in science and technology facing the attacks of these cases and surveillance must invite well-known Chinese American organizations to train the community on how to protect themselves; highlighting that as they dedicate their full efforts to their professions and work, they must also be concerned whether they will become the next "Wen Ho Lee."



      Secondly, a few investors and wealthy princelings from mainland China act with high-profile, showcasing a "money is wayward" attitude, treating the local culture, ethics, and safety regulations as nothing, and even causing major tragedies. These disorderly behaviors adversely impact mainstream Chinese Americans as well as their image. It is unavoidable that mainstream society becomes repulsive towards these strange phenomena.



      In terms of immigration laws, there has already been much discussion pointing out that Congress has failed to begin immigration reform and stem the influx of immigrants. Will the review in September of the immigration laws through investment tighten conditions and affecting opportunities for those who follow because there were many Chinese immigrant investors in the past three years? The American racial problems have become more acute in recent years. Whether it is the conflict between White and Black or the defamation of the Hispanics, they represent to some extent a conservative counterattack. The fear is: will these issues eventually be at the expense of the rights of other racial and ethnic groups? There is no guarantee that the finger of blame will not be pointing to the top immigrant group of Chinese.



      In the past, Asian Americans, and in particular Chinese Americans, were often referred to as "the model immigrant." However, as racial and ethnic disputes pour in, the topic of how Chinese Americans may, besides self-preservation to avoid becoming the victimized group, turn from passive to active and help to tackle the symptoms and causes of American racial and ethnic issues is one that is worthy of additional thoughts by those who care about the development of racial and ethnic issues.
  • Charles
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    • 人福利不錯的話,閣下原意降級當人嗎?我同意福利不可abuse or misuse, 但邦得起別人是我們的福分•和荣幸。
  • sxiang
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    • 对对,社会进步的意义就是财富共享,私有制是手段,不是目标
  • 兰彤
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    • @sxiang 再多说两句吗,不然找不到攻击点
  • sxiang
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    • 其实每个人在社会中都在享受这个社会带给我们的东西,物质和精神的,就算流浪汉,也是有贡献的,形式不同而已,这就是社会
  • sxiang
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    • 否则一个人,金山银山堆起来,不在社会中存在的话,什么意义也没有
  • sxiang
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    • 攻击点有显露吗?
  • 兰彤
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    • 太狡猾,继续观察
  • 青出于蓝
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    • 把你的财富拿出来大家共享吧
  • 兰彤
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    • @青出于蓝 
  • Charles
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    • 德列沙修女曾被批評在加爾各答創造貧窮,她說解決貧窮是政府旳事,她祗是能邦一人祘一人,能救ㄧ人祘一人
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • @sxiang 太高大上,没有实例
  • sxiang
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    • 人都是自私的,交税也是肉劲的,偷税也是愉快的,这也是我们需要政客的原因,必须从社会的角度来考虑问题
  • 登妈
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    • @sxiang 我简直要笑死了
  • sxiang
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    • 什么地方有破绽了?
  • 青出于蓝
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    • @sxiang 写得形象,我也是醉了
  • 陳年酒🍷
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    • @登妈 有什么好笑?
  • 社会主义好?
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    • 我回去再读一遍资本论了 好像历史是一面镜子。
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